I feel like you, that Americas are pinning all their hopes on the midterms in November, but America can’t wait that long!
I can’t believe that SOMEBODY, SOMETHING, SOME ACT OF CONGRESS, OR ANYTHING ELSE hasn’t taken out dumpy-doo (and his whole criminal administration) yet!!
I was horrified when dumbkoff got back in, but not even in my worst nightmares did I imagine he would be allowed (and make no mistake, he has been allowed/enabled to continue unchecked) to drag America down to the depths of hell reached thus far.
How much more treachery, how many more countries will he insult, how many more wars will he start, how much more suffering by innocent civilians in the US and the world can be unleashed before America cries “ENOUGH!” and actually does something instead of just talking about it.
I can’t believe he is doing what he is doing ‘in plain sight’!! That the American political system is so weak, so corrupt, so broken, that this has been allowed to happen before our very eyes …. well I don’t even know how to finish that sentence.
America needs to be seen to be actually DOING something to stop this disaster before the rest of the world does it for you.
I fear there is no more time left for talking … 😢😢😢
I am collapse-aware, and it drives all I do. No waiting for midterms. What can we-the-people do to save ourselves, since the government isn't going to? One perspective is that the universe, in its infinite wisdom, sent Trump to crash what was heading us for the cliff of losing our industrial world. If not overshoot that destroys it, even faster the push of a button by a demented person can wipe it all out, and we stay polite, going by the rules. Stick with me for dealing with alternatives!
I am currently living in New Zealand (dual citizen) and will follow you with interest to watch you shake the apple tree. Anything I can do to help from here, I will happily do.
Jesus, Sue. I didn't usually use His name in vain. I'm glad I follow you as well. Jesus. Sorry. Finally. A couple ladies that feel as concerned as I do.
It's inconceivable that women in charge would ever have let us get this far. Have you seen what I've been posting here and there, without getting traction:
How about a coup to install a presidential team? Let’s say Heather Cox Richardson, Joyce Vance, Anne Applebaum, Michelle Obama, and Marianne Williamson. Among other great women, these are the ones I follow, and it could be more or less than five. Just picture such warm, intelligent, and human-loving human beings leading the way. If they state that they are taking charge, so many millions would be on the streets in Washington that I bet they couldn’t be thwarted.
He doesn’t relish the job. He can’t stay awake for it, so maintaining even the illusion of competence is out his window. But what he does relish is riches. We would make it worth his while. He keeps all his grift, he gets freedom from prosecution, and do we care if he becomes the richest person in the world as long as he isn’t in office? Let him develop a desert somewhere. A clincher could be a state dinner in his honor when he gets the first Save Humanity Award for courageously resigning in the face of a newly diagnosed sleep disorder, so he saves face. Turn it into a national conversation? I picture people excited about participating!
No boundaries anymore. I like that image. I don't know how Heather sleeps. There's even more from her this morning. She has a great way of describing what's going on. I hope she likes what I'm suggesting. Kind of a wild shot. I don't know her.
All that you are gathering together, putting together, communicating, spreading, and sharing is on target, deeply meaningful, and needs to be shared in the fullest way. I hope you are putting all this together in some kind of a book form so that it’s in one place and all can read it at one time and share it as best they can. you are a cheerleader for the world Suzanne—always have been and always will be. Thank you for what you do.
With much appreciation for that evaluation, now that we do so much reading online it's a different playing field from when our primary quest was searching for ourselves and self-help books were the rage. I keep scratching my head for what serves us now. In fact, it's odd to me to send out missives full of ideas we could work on, only for them to be left in the dust by the next week. What to do with all of what I think of as bases for how to proceed when they aren't collected in one place, like in a book--and they keep evolving, so even a book never could end?
All the wiggling I do here, for maybe-this-maybe-that, is in quest of a methodology that I'd love to get advice about. How to get a working package driving us toward the world we want?
I see nothing in your open letter to Heather about a specific bribe, and certainly nothing that would remove the whole administration. Yes, he might fall for something bright and shiny, but his whole administration aren’t that stupid. They know he’s senile and are just using him.
"We would make it worth his while. Let him keep all his grift, give him freedom from prosecution, and what else? Do we care if he becomes the richest person in the world as long as he isn’t in office? Let him develop a desert somewhere. Sweeten our deal by making him the first recipient of the Save Humanity Award, in this case for courageously resigning in the face of some physical problem that’s newly diagnosed – a sleep disorder would do it -- so he saves face. A clincher, that gives him points in the adulation department, could be a state dinner in his honor."
And what makes you think his administration would follow him into this imaginary desert? I’m sorry, but I think you’re barking up the wrong tree here. Good luck with your crusade, but I believe we need a military coup to throw him and his entire bunch of criminals in jail. Nothing less!
It's my game to try. That's what to deal with here.
When you say "we need" it doesn't matter what you follow it with. It could be many things. But my site isnt about what would be, could be, should be, but what we have the power to do. Everyone could get into social media talking about what offer to make Trump to get him to fire his hires and resign.
It's worth considering what happens After he steps down, is dethroned, whatever. He's surrounded and scaffolded by people mote competent, more strategic, more lethal, younger, more ambitious for power. Salivating at the eventuality. Stalins waiting for Lenin to succumb.
It's not about him. Never has been. He's the clown at the top of the fire truck ladder at the circus, setting the tent on fire.
I hope it's not thinking that way. Thoughts are free. Why not make them pleasant? We are making it all up, and why not make up something better than this to think about..
We are giving it to him & his cronies (and they are taking much we are not giving). And it reinforces their behavior so it just continues. I love your alternative thinking , basically wondering if a bribe could work, but you may be missing just how bottomless their appetites are.
The forces that put Trump in office are stuck with him having power, so he could thwart them getting their ends satisfied in favor of lining his own pockets.
Meh. Your heart is in the right place. But you offer no concrete path. You're failing to consider the timidity of Dumbocratic pols, and the lumbering nature of the institutional change we need here in America that we just don't have mechanisms to deal with. HOW do we get rid of right-wing propaganda machines like Faux, OAN and their ilk. WHERE do we find brave Dems who will actually fight in Congress to make the legislative changes we need-tax reform, campaign finance reform, hell, even reform of corporate charter laws to get rid of the abomination of "corporate rights"?
I read your letter and I support your position...but you're mowhrre close to proposing a workable solution, so I'll stick with the ballot box.
You have missed all that I've said. And better to use the rules of brainstorming. All yes. See how things can be rather than shooting ideas down.
You aren't even in a ballpark of accuracy in relating to what I said. I suggested Heather and I start something that could become a national conversation about what deal to make with Trump to get him to fire his hires and resign.
"But what he does relish is riches. We would make it worth his while. Let him keep all his grift, give him freedom from prosecution, and what else? Do we care if he becomes the richest person in the world as long as he isn’t in office? Let him develop a desert somewhere. Sweeten our deal by making him the first recipient of the Save Humanity Award, in this case for courageouslyby resigning in the face of some physical problem that’s newly diagnosed – a sleep disorder would do it -- so he saves face. A clincher, that gives him
I can just see everybody getting excited about being able to think in a channel that helps our dangerous situation! How to get this idea popularized? Is this you passing the idea to your people?
What a tragedy that the military aren't 'woke' enough to protest. What if they held a war and nobody attended?
You'd have thought something would have come from them. Well, the fat lady hasn't sung yet.
I feel like you, that Americas are pinning all their hopes on the midterms in November, but America can’t wait that long!
I can’t believe that SOMEBODY, SOMETHING, SOME ACT OF CONGRESS, OR ANYTHING ELSE hasn’t taken out dumpy-doo (and his whole criminal administration) yet!!
I was horrified when dumbkoff got back in, but not even in my worst nightmares did I imagine he would be allowed (and make no mistake, he has been allowed/enabled to continue unchecked) to drag America down to the depths of hell reached thus far.
How much more treachery, how many more countries will he insult, how many more wars will he start, how much more suffering by innocent civilians in the US and the world can be unleashed before America cries “ENOUGH!” and actually does something instead of just talking about it.
I can’t believe he is doing what he is doing ‘in plain sight’!! That the American political system is so weak, so corrupt, so broken, that this has been allowed to happen before our very eyes …. well I don’t even know how to finish that sentence.
America needs to be seen to be actually DOING something to stop this disaster before the rest of the world does it for you.
I fear there is no more time left for talking … 😢😢😢
I am collapse-aware, and it drives all I do. No waiting for midterms. What can we-the-people do to save ourselves, since the government isn't going to? One perspective is that the universe, in its infinite wisdom, sent Trump to crash what was heading us for the cliff of losing our industrial world. If not overshoot that destroys it, even faster the push of a button by a demented person can wipe it all out, and we stay polite, going by the rules. Stick with me for dealing with alternatives!
I am currently living in New Zealand (dual citizen) and will follow you with interest to watch you shake the apple tree. Anything I can do to help from here, I will happily do.
Restacking my posts helps a lot!
Jesus, Sue. I didn't usually use His name in vain. I'm glad I follow you as well. Jesus. Sorry. Finally. A couple ladies that feel as concerned as I do.
It's inconceivable that women in charge would ever have let us get this far. Have you seen what I've been posting here and there, without getting traction:
How about a coup to install a presidential team? Let’s say Heather Cox Richardson, Joyce Vance, Anne Applebaum, Michelle Obama, and Marianne Williamson. Among other great women, these are the ones I follow, and it could be more or less than five. Just picture such warm, intelligent, and human-loving human beings leading the way. If they state that they are taking charge, so many millions would be on the streets in Washington that I bet they couldn’t be thwarted.
Sorry to mention it, but don't we need enough consensus to remove a man that has the military at his discretion?
I'm suggesting he resign.
I've been suggesting that along with endless other women. We need to bring a bargaining chip.
He doesn’t relish the job. He can’t stay awake for it, so maintaining even the illusion of competence is out his window. But what he does relish is riches. We would make it worth his while. He keeps all his grift, he gets freedom from prosecution, and do we care if he becomes the richest person in the world as long as he isn’t in office? Let him develop a desert somewhere. A clincher could be a state dinner in his honor when he gets the first Save Humanity Award for courageously resigning in the face of a newly diagnosed sleep disorder, so he saves face. Turn it into a national conversation? I picture people excited about participating!
I love it!
I hope Heather listens, there are no boundaries anymore, they’ve all been trampled. I really hope she listens and the world does as well.
No boundaries anymore. I like that image. I don't know how Heather sleeps. There's even more from her this morning. She has a great way of describing what's going on. I hope she likes what I'm suggesting. Kind of a wild shot. I don't know her.
All that you are gathering together, putting together, communicating, spreading, and sharing is on target, deeply meaningful, and needs to be shared in the fullest way. I hope you are putting all this together in some kind of a book form so that it’s in one place and all can read it at one time and share it as best they can. you are a cheerleader for the world Suzanne—always have been and always will be. Thank you for what you do.
With much appreciation for that evaluation, now that we do so much reading online it's a different playing field from when our primary quest was searching for ourselves and self-help books were the rage. I keep scratching my head for what serves us now. In fact, it's odd to me to send out missives full of ideas we could work on, only for them to be left in the dust by the next week. What to do with all of what I think of as bases for how to proceed when they aren't collected in one place, like in a book--and they keep evolving, so even a book never could end?
All the wiggling I do here, for maybe-this-maybe-that, is in quest of a methodology that I'd love to get advice about. How to get a working package driving us toward the world we want?
My original comment referred to feeding a hungry dog, (who might bite the hand that fed him.)
I don't think he needs any more people giving him things and would miss the thrill of extracting it as a result of his power and prowess.
You know the brainstorming process? Always say yes! If you composed a bribe to him, what would your best shot be?
And we need the whole administration gone, not just dumbkoff. 😢
Did you read my bribe? It would get all his hires out.
I see nothing in your open letter to Heather about a specific bribe, and certainly nothing that would remove the whole administration. Yes, he might fall for something bright and shiny, but his whole administration aren’t that stupid. They know he’s senile and are just using him.
"We would make it worth his while. Let him keep all his grift, give him freedom from prosecution, and what else? Do we care if he becomes the richest person in the world as long as he isn’t in office? Let him develop a desert somewhere. Sweeten our deal by making him the first recipient of the Save Humanity Award, in this case for courageously resigning in the face of some physical problem that’s newly diagnosed – a sleep disorder would do it -- so he saves face. A clincher, that gives him points in the adulation department, could be a state dinner in his honor."
And what makes you think his administration would follow him into this imaginary desert? I’m sorry, but I think you’re barking up the wrong tree here. Good luck with your crusade, but I believe we need a military coup to throw him and his entire bunch of criminals in jail. Nothing less!
It's my game to try. That's what to deal with here.
When you say "we need" it doesn't matter what you follow it with. It could be many things. But my site isnt about what would be, could be, should be, but what we have the power to do. Everyone could get into social media talking about what offer to make Trump to get him to fire his hires and resign.
It's worth considering what happens After he steps down, is dethroned, whatever. He's surrounded and scaffolded by people mote competent, more strategic, more lethal, younger, more ambitious for power. Salivating at the eventuality. Stalins waiting for Lenin to succumb.
It's not about him. Never has been. He's the clown at the top of the fire truck ladder at the circus, setting the tent on fire.
What's everyone else doing?
I hope it's not thinking that way. Thoughts are free. Why not make them pleasant? We are making it all up, and why not make up something better than this to think about..
Like one would feed a hungry dog?
I think that would be reframed by him as stay the course.
What is your question in response to?
I was referring to the idea of offering monetary or other gifts to DJT sooth his desire for those gifts.
Perhaps I missed your drift. I will reread.
I was riding the horse in the direction it's going. He wants wealth. Give it to him.
We are giving it to him & his cronies (and they are taking much we are not giving). And it reinforces their behavior so it just continues. I love your alternative thinking , basically wondering if a bribe could work, but you may be missing just how bottomless their appetites are.
The forces that put Trump in office are stuck with him having power, so he could thwart them getting their ends satisfied in favor of lining his own pockets.
Meh. Your heart is in the right place. But you offer no concrete path. You're failing to consider the timidity of Dumbocratic pols, and the lumbering nature of the institutional change we need here in America that we just don't have mechanisms to deal with. HOW do we get rid of right-wing propaganda machines like Faux, OAN and their ilk. WHERE do we find brave Dems who will actually fight in Congress to make the legislative changes we need-tax reform, campaign finance reform, hell, even reform of corporate charter laws to get rid of the abomination of "corporate rights"?
I read your letter and I support your position...but you're mowhrre close to proposing a workable solution, so I'll stick with the ballot box.
You have missed all that I've said. And better to use the rules of brainstorming. All yes. See how things can be rather than shooting ideas down.
You aren't even in a ballpark of accuracy in relating to what I said. I suggested Heather and I start something that could become a national conversation about what deal to make with Trump to get him to fire his hires and resign.
This
"But what he does relish is riches. We would make it worth his while. Let him keep all his grift, give him freedom from prosecution, and what else? Do we care if he becomes the richest person in the world as long as he isn’t in office? Let him develop a desert somewhere. Sweeten our deal by making him the first recipient of the Save Humanity Award, in this case for courageouslyby resigning in the face of some physical problem that’s newly diagnosed – a sleep disorder would do it -- so he saves face. A clincher, that gives him
(A way out)
I can just see everybody getting excited about being able to think in a channel that helps our dangerous situation! How to get this idea popularized? Is this you passing the idea to your people?